It's really sad....

President Lou Demian · Lou Demian - President

It's really sad....

Tooz · Matt Sealey Former Member

the less I think of those people, the better.

President Lou Demian · Lou Demian - President

Yeah they really are a sad bunch over there. Have nothing better to do but belittle other people's leagues since their league�is inferior.

Interesting how there has been no mention of them on these boards for the longest time, yet they still throw out their jabs to us over here.

Helton · Nathan Helton Former Member

Dont waste your time with those guys Lou, We know Total Sports or whatever its called is only Jealous their not�as big as this league. They drove me out through harassment becaues I�did not quit this league last year. Then I seen where Steve Engrim�said if someone didnt like their League he would get rid of them and replace them and hes not even a Senator. Hard to belive that they would let members kick people out of their League, but what can you do they got rid of me and I didnt do anything but remain in this League when they wanted me to leave.�They spend so much time putting this League down they lose site of what their League could be.�They cant get past You and this League and as�long as they feel that way they will be stuck with a League that has to make fun of this League to make them feel better.

��It is sad
�� Nathan�

President Lou Demian · Lou Demian - President

Yeah, I hear you Nathan...

They use harassment to drive members out they don't like. It's funny that when I was being quietly kicked out, I wasn't even told of it. My information on the site just started mysteriously disappearing and I couldnt even get a straight answer?

What was their excuse? Because I posted a supposedly "gay" picture of 2 guys without shirts on hugging each other. The picture itself was not even that offensive... you see worse stuff on�free TV.� This was done after about a week's worth of harassment towards me from a couple of members, and the owner was egging them on rather than trying to end it. So I was the one who was kicked off the league because I posted a very small somewhat suggestive picture.� LOL.... what a joke. Nothing was said about the harassment towards me.
I still can't figure out�how posts on the forum relates to a league banishment?

That's when I decided to come up with members rights.... While harassing people on the forum could get you suspended from the boards... it could never get you kicked out of the league after the season started.� The funny thing is that I was undefeated at the time. That would be like me kicking out the points leader at the start of the chase just because I didn't like him.

A Truly truly pathetic way of running a league.

President Lou Demian · Lou Demian - President

Gee... I log on this morning and see that his "Death Pool" post has been deleted from his forums.�

How very very nice of him.......��By the way,�that's sarcasm.

�I guess next he will ask me to remove this post.

It's ok if he makes us look bad to his league members, but when I stand my ground and�expose�his league for what it really is, well that's just uncalled for.

President Lou Demian · Lou Demian - President

Oops, now his forum has gone private.... lol�� Guess he really must be steaming.

Very interesting since he used to bash us for keeping our forums private for awhile.
Also, he kept his forum open for anonymous posts.... Again, he bashed me saying that I should leave my forum open for anonymous posts too. That way he could come on here and post all kinds of crap.

What happens after I make a post there in response to his deathpool league? OOh.... someone is too scared to show their name there.�Please.. everyone knew it was me, and since I don't have a board name there, how am I not supposed to make an anonymous post?��lol.....

The funniest thing�is that after I posted there, he switched his forums to only allow people with board names to post there.

The guy contradicts himself with everything he says.

I've stayed quiet long enough while he and his buddies tried to rip this league apart.�I'm very proud what this league has accomplished and I�respect all members in my league. No more will I sit�quietly by while others try to tear it down. They have tried to pull members away from the league in the past�and they thought I didn't know.�Trust me, I know a lot more than what I let on.

It's a lot different when the shoe is on the other foot.

Kikie · Kalamazoo Brew Crew Former Member

KInda like the bowling for Soup song, High School Never Ends. I have run into people like this before, amazing how all the bitter people from high school find each other. people like that i refer to as Jim Jones and the koolaide kids.

President Lou Demian · Lou Demian - President

Sorry Kikie, he never made it out of grade school.

Now his latest project is going around the entire site to find type-o's or spelling errors. He and his two "yes men" are having their fun.

Well I guess he feels he needs to expand on his teacher salary somehow.

I guess I should feel honored that they are looking over the entire site.

-- Edited by President Lou Demian at 19:30, 2007-03-27

Bensonbdr23 · Jeffrey Ouderkirk Former Member

Hey LOU dont worry im not gonna leave ! And I have other people that want to join this league. I talk to them about Lucky Dog Racing all the time ,so they will join .

Bensonbdr23 · Jeffrey Ouderkirk Former Member

By the way do ya like my avatar.

President Lou Demian · Lou Demian - President

Thanks Jeffrey.... I'm glad you are enjoying the league.

I don't think any current member has any problems with the league. The few bad eggs from last year are behind us and won't be back again. They just liked to cause trouble just to get people riled up.

And yes, I do like your avatar, it's cool!!

Kikie · Kalamazoo Brew Crew Former Member

Gee, how nice ... a person like this is teaching kids.� Kinda lets ya know why theres problem with school shootings

President Lou Demian · Lou Demian - President

My thoughts exactly Kikie...� Too bad the parents don't know the real type of person he is.

I'm just so thankful that I don't live in that school district.

Kikie · Kalamazoo Brew Crew Former Member

Im sure he thinks lines like this at parent/teacher conferences work.

"I'm good at math. U+I=69"

i have 3 sons, 21, 17 and 14, trust me, i have had to deal with morons like him.

President Lou Demian · Lou Demian - President

Yep, unfortunately we had to deal with him for too long.
By the way, his team name was Galaxy Inc.�� he still has some idiotic posts in the pit row section... of course he used some alternate names towards the end of his career here.

What's really funny is that I've known him ever since 5th grade... we used to be friends until he turned on me when I was getting married. Ever since then we've been at each other's throats.

All throughout the off-season he's been using his league to throw insults at me personally and the league. Most of them are gone now, however everyone saw what was going on.

I sat pretty quietly during that time, not bothering to post much on the boards, but rather talk to him directly.

He told me that when the season started we would leave this league alone.
We have not said anything bad about his league for months now. I thought it was finally over with.

During the off-season one of the stupid things he and his buddies came up with was the Lucky Dog Death pool.... they would take bets on how many members would be leaving the league this year. According to him there would be a mass exodus.

Well, since I thought this was behind us after the season started, I didn't pay too much mind to it.

However, just yesterday he announces the winner of the first segment of the death pool.� For some reason he counted 4 members because 4 players in the entire league haven't run a full schedule. That's because there were a couple of no-shows from the Truck Series. It took a race or two to replace them.

Anyway, him bringing this crap up again just set me off. We haven't done anything towards that league at all since the season began. Most of the new players don't even know about him or his buddies..... Those would be Riney Enterprises, Miller Motorsports and Jerry Jones Racing.... JJR has been quiet lately, so I hold nothing against him currently, however Riney and Miller are still going at it with Galaxy Inc.�

Galaxy Inc. started his own NASCAR league after he left, just to spite us. As I said, I've known him for quite awhile and he doesn't even care for NASCAR. He wouldn't even want to watch it if I was at his house.� For some reason he wanted to join my league in the 2005 season. So I let him.... After joining he would often come up with anologies how football was better than NASCAR. Even went as far as calling NASCAR fans white trash. Yet, now he's running a NASCAR league... go figure.

I even thought after the season began, that maybe he really was going to take this serious and not hold any grudges toward us. I actually even asked if he would want to join up with LROC.... of course he said no.

So, nothing was said for awhile except for little bits here and there by him, trying to get his shots in. When he brings up this death league pool, thats it.....�� I'm not just sitting quietly by. I refuse to let him belittle this great league.

He brought this upon himself, he could have just stayed to himself and left this league alone.

-- Edited by President Lou Demian at 12:51, 2007-03-27

Kikie · Kalamazoo Brew Crew Former Member

Wow, the drama. See women and men arent so different. Seems like he is doing anything to get your attention. I would just forget him and his group and mourn the long friendship you once had. I know its much easier said than done, but, is he worth it? The actions that have taken place, is he really someone you want to even have to think twice about? Remember the good times and forget the small minded person he has become. Having to even deal with this crap isnt worth it. You have something good here, you know that. Just remember your ass is coated in teflon and everything he says and does slides off. He is the one with the problem, not you. Seriously, you dont want me to have to break out more cheesie lines. I will do it, I will sit here and have to remember cheesie lines I have heard until you are lauging so hard milk comes out of your nose. Then, thats no fun because it gets all over the keyboard, the screen, and its just a pain to clean up.

President Lou Demian · Lou Demian - President

Well I guess all my rambling here paid off. He hasshut his forums to private only, and I won't be hearing from him on any instant messaging now. Supposedly he will not be talking about me or this league anymore. He's said that before and it never stuck, so we will see.

Of course he painted himself as the innocent victim to his members. The way he worded in a post to them that I was talking trash about his new baby. That is not true in any way, in case any of them read this message. All I said was that his newborn son is already more mature than he is, and that's all! If anything it was a compliment to his son. But at any rate, it's finished... at least for now.

As long as he holds his word about not talking garbage about this league, expect the same from me. This post is over and now locked.