Oh yeah, thats right. I was sooo sure I had won the group last night. Yeah right! LOL That last beer must have pushed me over the edge. Don't know what I was thinking. Still time for any folks that what to run in my league. At ESPN site "Stockcar Challenge" Group name is " North Atlanta Group". Password is "nodrog". It's needed to join. In short you get the points that your 5 drivers get. It's free and a great bunch of folks. Anyone who joins say hi to group on the bulletin board.........> Oh well, guess I'll try again next week. Kiss or call your moms. GB