After watching the debates, I cannot understand why anyone would vote for Obama. The guy is just plain crooked, and it shows every time he speaks without a prompter. I found this photo of him during a July 4th event. I know he finds the USA embarassing, but this says it all.!! Notice that the other 3 peeps on stage have their hands over their hearts...including Hillary, but Obama is playing with himself. What a disgrace!!

-- Edited by JG4TMR at 22:53, 2008-09-28

Ok Jeff. somehow i knew that would be the response,but tell me one thing. What is the change that NOBAMA has promised you that hits home with you? Is it the fact he says he is going to cut your taxes? Is it that he wants to nationalize health care? I am just curious because the more I read about him, he is not good for any class of citizens. Or is it that you just dont like Bush? Just curious, cause I ask this question to all NOBAMA supporters.



Oh by the way...your guy let me down in LROC last week. Guess I will need to make a CHANGE!! lol

Watch this video....  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8

-- Edited by JG4TMR at 17:59, 2008-09-29

First that photo of Obama is doctored. Second are you sure Bin Laden is alive. He could just as well be maggot bait in some collapsed cave. we probably will never know.

Ok so you are mad at Bush. Kinda what I thought. I come from a Military family and understand the freedom they provide. NOBAMA will decrease our military like Clinton did, making us less capable of defending the USA. How many lives will be lost if we bail on IRAQ? I guess it doesnt matter unless they arent Americans. Can you imagine if NOBAMA had been president during WW11 ? We arent the greatest country in the world because we just sit by and watch people get massacred. I am 50 years old and would go to fight for my country tomorrow if asked. I am proud of the soldiers who made the ultimate sacrifice for our Country. Did you know more people died in the City of Chicago (NOBAMAS town) in August than died in IRAQ? (might be July...not sure). Are you aware of the numbers of Americans who die yearly on our highways? 30 40 50 thousand! So why not the outrage there? I suppose if Bush built the highways, he would be blamed. To me NOBAMA scares the heck out of me. He could care less about America... he only cares about himself and the Democrat party. He knows only what he reads, cause he has ZERO experience doing anything. I am glad he isnt running to be a brain surgeon...everyone would die on the table.

If you would take the time to stop hating Bush for a sec, and check into NOBAMAS past...check out who he was associated with, check his voting record, and read his books. He isnt the man for this country. I would never vote for a thug who is a lawyer and has friends like Ayers, Rezco, Flagler, Wright, and is involved with ACORN. Google Acorn..you'll be shocked at what they do.....I am done

-- Edited by JG4TMR at 20:55, 2008-09-29

Answers to your 2 cents

1. Yes I am better off because I never bought a $200,000 house for zero down while I was unemployed

2. My stimulus check is still in the bank. Saving it for a Vacation next year

3. WMD's...lets see. We announce in November we may go in. We go in in March. Hmmm was there enough time to move them? Syria maybe? I remember the Iran/Iraq war where chemical weapons were used.

4. The war will be won. The cost of losing is unbearable

5. Social security. This program was never designed to be a means for retirement by itself. My retirement plans do not include SS, so if its gone, I will be fine. Since it is here now, I would be for privatization of my account. Getting it out of the Governments hands and letting receipients choose its future, would insure it would be there when they retire.

6. McCain never asked a wheelchair bound guy to STAND UP!

wow things sure get heated when election time rolls around . first off everyone of us here is better off than we were 8 years ago and if you dont agree with that youre lying to yourself .
if it wasnt an election year i dont believe the economy would be what it is or gas would cost what it does . neither side wants to chip in and fix it because they want their guy to look good when the economy is the first thing they address after taking office . look at the problems their having agreeing to give 700 billion dollars to fix this banking mess . given a comparison between McCain and Obama and i dont see how you vote against McCain. Obama is hoping to ride the race card all the way to Pennsylvania Ave . but he didnt grow up black and has no idea what blacks go through in this country . he has consistently shown himself to be a liar at best with quick wit and lipservice . how do i choose a millionaire that understands my wants and needs and can relate to my struggles and issues ? its not possible . until a common man or woman can once again be elected president of this great country we will be stuck with choosing the lesser of two evils every 4 or 8 years . im far from being a liberal republican follower but i can put my trust in a man who has fought for his country and stood by his beliefs even though his own party has turned its back on him in the past . i have never liked or had any use for 'W' but thought his dad was a great man . i dont think he ever created his own shadow much like i believe McCain has . this discussin is far from over but i just had to comment for now
one more thing and im done . i think iraq was all about the oil much like we are all paying way over $3.50 for gas while oil companies are recording record profits . if this was home depot or walmart someone would be screaming price gouging . i have never agreed with the war in iraq but we as an american people now have a vested interest in this war , the thousands of lives given for its sake . pulling out anytime soon would be a dishonor to those who did give all for this country .